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18W/8545-00 +
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18W/8545-K00 + D2905/9500
18W/8545-K00 + D2905/9700
Some three years ago I
made a two-way, transmissionline floorstander from these
speakers and the sound wasn't bad at all. Eventually I
got caught up in other projects and the drivers went back
on the shelf. The 8545 was part of the drivers tested for
the Acapella midrange - where it did a good job again -
but was beaten by a small margin from the SEAS W18EX001
for this particular application. When I launched my
"from the archives" section on my wensite, I
thought this two-way, including a parallel filter, might
be part of this collection. I hadn't realised that this
particular construction would create the largest amount
of responses to this section so I better get started.
The 18W/8545-00 is indeed an old
fellow. I don't remember the exact time of
release, but it must be more than ten years ago we saw
the first constructions utilising this driver, usually in
smaller 15 litre vented enclosures. I know that a number
of people have chosen this driver first to the 8535 due
to large magnet - and the magnet is huge. Large magnets
are known to increase transient response but the
trade-off is reduced bass extension. Not quality, but
extension. This driver cannot play the deep bass as heard
from the 8531 driver. The Qt is too low. We might add a
series resistor to the driver to increase Qt and get a
deeper bass but then we would sacrifice efficiency.
Playing around with the simulation programme a 15 litre
vented cabinet would get close to the theoretical optimum
volume. However, a 24 litre vented cabinet would take the
F3 down to 38 Hz compared to 47 Hz from a 15 litre
cabinet with the same 36-38 Hz port tuning. This possibly
with a slightly less precise bass but it might be worth a
shot. What speaks for a 24 litre vented cabinet is that I
have a pair!
The 8545 cone is heavily coated compared to the 8535
driver and already from some initial listening tests the
midrange from the 8545 driver is better than the 8535.
Initially I thought I'd try
a completely new approach to this midbass driver and mate
it with the Vifa DX25TG tweeter as I have had good
results from this tweeter lately. And instead of a
parallel filter I'd try a series filter with the DX
tweeter. And I'm possibly going to try this also. The
8545 + 9500 is a classic, seen in numerous speaker
constructions and why should I try to copy something that
so many probably have done so well before? But as a
starting point, this will be the basic layout. Then we'll
see how things progress.
Things don't always turn out
the way you thought it would. After struggling for many
hours with the parallel filter I gave it up. First of all
I had placed the tweeter right in the middle of the
somewhat narrow front panel (190 mm) giving it 80-95 mm
to all edges. Disaster! Huge dip at 3.5 kHz and huge bump
at 2 kHz. Awful! Impossible to get the crossover right to
match these conditions. So, off went the upper part of
the front panels and new MDF inserts were made to
off-centre the 9500 tweeters. Much better response.
Coming to think of the SP95 I didn't remember having this
much trouble getting the 9500 working properly. So, in
went the SP95 series crossover and now things started to
work in the right direction. The 9500 has a lot of
response capability at 2 kHz and somehow it appeared
easier to control from this series filter. Well, you
don't just throw in a filter from another construction
and get it all. No way. A few more evenings of
fine-tuning component values and eventually ending up
with a 4th order HP-section to the 9500 - just to get the
damned thing down at 2 kHz. The point of crossover is
around 3 kHz and some will argue that this is too high
for the 8545 driver. I'm not sure I agree. Try running
the 8545 from a 3rd order filter to 3 kHz and disconnect
the 9500 tweeter and play loud. Does the 8545 - alone -
sound aggressive or smeared? I don't think so. These
carbon fiber cones or often accused of having a rough
upper midrange and nobody asks how the tweeter is
performing - because in most cases the tweeter to some
degree shares the 1.5-3 kHz range with the midbass
depending on the slope of the crossover used. At least
from this heavily coated cone the upper midrange/lower
treble appear smooth and clean. The un-coated 8535 from
the 2.5 clone is another story!
The Crossover

Fig. 1: 8545/9500-series crossover, version 2

Amish 45/95 crossover layout. Click image do download zip
file. 35 KB.
Measurements

Fig. 2: 8545+9500: red = SPL response, blue = minimum
phase.

Fig. 3: 8545+9500:
red = SPL response, both drivers.
green = 8545 response.
purple = tweeter response.
blue = SPL response without midrange notch filter.
Point of crossover = approx. 3 kHz.

Fig. 4: 8545-9500 series filter v2, impedance. Red =
impedance. Blue = phase.
Basically this is an 8 ohm speaker with 7 ohm impedance
in the most important area, the upper bass and lower
midrange. At 3 kHz the impedance drops to 3.5 ohm.

Fig. 5: 8545+9500, V2, horizontal dispersion. 0-40 deg.
Red = 0, blue = 10, green = 20, yellow = 30, purple = 40.
At this stage I'll take the risk of
releasing the series crossover and measuring performance
because this speaker is slowly beginning to sound really
good. From my experience much of the possible
aggressiveness in the upper midrange/lower treble region,
800-2500 Hz, originates from three factors:
1. The roll-off characteristic of the midbass. Any abrupt
decline at 2-3 kHz from the driver is likely to sound
aggressive.
2. A large overlap from the tweeter in the same region
affects the perceived sound of the upper midrange/lower
treble - usually negatively.
3. Last but not least the very SPL level of this region.
Tuning the 800-3000 Hz region 1 dB up or 1 dB down has a
profound impact on the perceived sound. Forward,
aggressive, presence are some of the terms used in case
this region is voiced too high. Closed, muted, dark may
be some of the terms used if the level is too low.
I'm positively surprised by the
three-dimensionality of the 8545 driver. Much better than
I remember - or ever have had. The impact on horizontal
dispersion from having a point of crossover at 3 kHz has
been measured and is displayed in fig. 5. From 0 - 30o
we very much observe the same response, only the tweeter
starts declining above 15 kHz. No surprise.
The Cabinet

Download cabinet file by clicking image, zip file, 34 KB

8545+9500, test cabinet.
19-09-2004: My initial plan was to try
implementing the Vifa DX25TG tweeter also, but the
current set-up is doing so well that I'll leave it here.
This is a speaker that handles all musical genres equally
well. It has a good bass performance and with the modest
sized cabinet it should also have a high WAF.
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