"Norwegian Wood"
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Troels Gravesen
OB7
2007 Open Baffle experiments with
Goodmans Axiom 150 mkII + Supravox 215RTF64 + JBL
LE26-waveguide
Also view 2009 open
baffle construction.
Review of MAE1,
Single Ended Tetrode Amplifier Kit from Norway

This summer's holidays once more brought us to
the Western parts of Southern Norway, to the
mountains, the fjords, the highlands - and for
the first two days also brought us loads of rain.
The latter I really can't blame the Norwegians,
because it's been raining cats and dogs for weeks
in the whole of Northern Europe. But in Norway
you find lots of small log cabins when weather
doesn't make setting up your tent such an
attractive option. The cabins may be constructed
from huge logs of wood, the roof covered with
grass and bushes. Two beds, a table and two
chairs, a stove in the corner, that's all. No
electricity, no telly, no radio, no hifi, no
internet. And no sounds, but the faint sizzle
from a distant stream carrying the water of
melting snow from the mountains. If your cabin is
in the right place you may get one more thing:
Silence. Take a walk in the highlands and it will
sharpen your hearing because there isn't much to
listen to. A few birds and a faint
"glock" of a bell hanging from a
sheep's neck is all you hear. At home I live in a
town, filled with noise and I have to close
windows and doors to make complete silence.
Whether the silence of the
hills
and mountains helped sharpen the hearing of
Bernt, Brynjar and Hans* of Norway, I don't know.
Some twenty prototypes of the "Motron Audio
Experience Single Ended Tetrode 1", MAE
SET1, were built and the version tested here
covers not the most expensive parts available,
because as always, we apply to the law of
diminishing returns and getting a commercial kit
flying, compromises have to be made. However, you
will find excellent components not often used in
high-end gear but chosen for their good sonic
performance. Even some special by-pass caps are
used to balance the sound from the output
trannies.
This amp should deliver some 6.5 wpc and if used
alone, we're into high-efficiency speaker
territory to find suitable partners that will
deliver from such a set-up and this is what the
second part of this story is about. Obviously the
MAE1 can be used for bi-amping, relieving it from
delivering the deepest bass.
For those interested in valves, we're finding
Philips E83F and STC 5B/255M in this amp.
Good valve amps are like
good wine. We do not have to be experts in
any of these areas, but this doesn't prevent us
from listening and tasting. When we have reached
a certain level of technical perfection, it
doesn't make much sense trying to rank the
products any more. We may argue indefinitely
about which brand of caps, coils, wires and
resistors is the best or which amplifier circuit
topology will deliver the best sonic value, but
basically we're talking taste, and taste cannot
be argued. It's a futile discussion. What we have
to consider with this Norwegian MAE1 amp is it's
limited output power and the fact that it's
single ended, probably having relatively high
output impedance. So, we need speakers with
decent impedance and high sensitivity. From
several weeks' experience I find that if we want
to use this amp alone, we need something in the
area above 94 dB/2.8 volts. BUT, this certainly
depends on the impedance of the speaker; so don't
despair if your speakers have lower sensitivity.
But matching flea-powered amps to speakers is
like finding the right wine for a given disc.
Ingredients have to match to make a perfect
dinner.
*Bernt
has developed the MAE1, Brynjar delivers the
components and sells the kit. Hans has built the
version I'm testing. Thanks to you all for
lending me the amp for so long. It was perfect
timing for testing some HES speaker experiments.
For information, write Brynjar at bryn@motron.no
Pics at Nowegian discussion site: http://www.hifisentralen.no/forum/index.php/topic,12141.0/all.html (in Norwegian).


It takes an experienced
builder to produce what's seen above. Very
nice indeed. You may notice that a power input
filter follows the kit. I wonder why the Hammond
125ESE output transformer used here is specified
to having a frequency range of "only"
100-15000 Hz, because the MAE1 can play bass,
even deep bass given the right speakers. Some of
you may remember Mezzoforte's "No
Limits" LP. Try Joyride with the
MAE1 plus the OB7 speakers and they'll shake your
guts like you never thought possible from 6
watts.
To cut a long story short, I find the MAE1 having
the following characteristics:
- Magnificent midrange with fine detail and
resolution. Smooth like velvet.
- Treble performance is hard to comment, because
I don't know what it could do better. Crisp,
clear, extended.
- Bass is slow on low-efficiency speakers. Needs
high-efficiency speakers to show good transient
ability.
- Plays quite loud on a wide range of speakers.
Drive it to clipping and it does so in an
ear-friendly manner.
- Overall a slightly forgiving presentation; if
your system sounds harsh with this amp, look
elswhere.
I'd been surprised if this
amp
would kick my reference 20 wpc PSE mono-blocks
off the ramp, and it doesn't. The 3-4 times
amount of extra power display enhanced authority
and low-end grip, but it comes at three times the
price - not to forget.
The MAE1 is a charming
amplifier and after some time you'd like to
include it in your collection of amplifiers -
like a vintage wine. But don't get me wrong here;
I very much render this amplifier a high-end kit
that given the right working conditions will
deliver some of the best sound available. It
faces fierce competition from all the Chinese
valve amps flooding the market for the time
being, but what you get here is a kit with
schematics and competent people behind that can
help should anything go wrong.
And by the way: It has 4, 8, 16 and even 32 ohms
secondary tabs!

Speakers used in testing MAE1
The
first pair of speakers tried with the MAE1 amp
was the JA8008/TW034 delivering some 95 dB
sensitivity from a TQWT cabinet. No problem in
driving these speakers. Next I tried the Vifa
C17-mk4 speakers. No problem in driving
these speakers either, however not as good as the
JA8008/TW034 speaker, which has smoother treble
and better dynamics.
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Open baffle experiments
My Wharfedale SFB
substitute
The drivers

The
LE26 fitted with a waveguide makes a suitable option for
high-efficiency systems. Read LE26 article.
Details on the Supravox 215RTF64 can be found at Supravox website. A classic,
extremely sensitive high-Qt driver.

Goodmans
Axiom 150 mkII, details can be found here.
Given the TS data, this driver may not be particularly
well suited for open baffles.
Drivers should have a high Qt for OB application.
However, they do darn well.
The crossover
Oh yes, we need a
few crossover components. I've
tried running this from a single cap to the
tweeter and it just doesn't work. The Supravox
has a rising response towards higher frequences
and makes the upper treble too aggressive. From a
single cap (3.3 uF) the LE26+waveguide does well
down to 1-1.5 kHz, where it really shouldn't
mingle at all. And the Goodmans does well up to
2.5 kHz where it should leave it to the Supravox.
So, basically the bass and mid now runs 1st order
after adding impedance correcting RC circuits and
the tweeter needs a 3rd order high-pass filter at
around 6 kHz to mate the Supravox. The Supravox
is really handling most of the treble area here.
Let's reiterate frequency bands, so we know what
we're talking about:

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The
simulation shown above is made
from measurements done on drivers mounted in
closed or vented cabs. Measuring drivers on an
open baffle is major trouble as has been
discussed in Acapella files and the Dipole Study.
Read intro page for links.
First of all I wanted to try the most simple
set-up possible and by this I mean the Supravox
run almost fullrange with a point of crossover as
high as possible like the French PHY-PH drivers.
By adding an impedance correcting circuit (10 ohm
+ 10 uF across speaker terminals) and a series
0.47 mH coil, the Supra will run to 5-6 kHz and
display a ~3rd order roll-off at around 7-8 kHz.
The LE26 tweeter needs a similar 3rd order
high-pass filter to match the Supra. No major
problems here.The big question in
this set-up is the Goodmans bass
driver. It's a capable driver up to 2-3 kHz but
it doesn't sound good playing upper mid/lower
treble. The 3.9 mH coil shown here makes a rather
shallow roll-off of 6 dB/octave starting around
200-300 Hz, thus still provides quite a
contribution to the whole midrange. Problem with
this is that it's slightly out of phase with the
Supravox. Adding a high-pass filter to the
Supravox would mean inverting polarity of mid and
tweeter and I didn't want to do this. The bass
and mid are both connected with positive polarity
and provides a bass membrane area close to a
15" driver.
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The baffle

Baffle construction
should be self-explanatory. Two layers of 22 mm MDF were
used.
Rear panel is added egg crate foam to reduce reflections
between panel and rear wall.
And the final speakers including drivers are heavy like
h....I had to remove the Goodmans
drivers to move the panels from the workshop to the
living room, not to break by back.





So, how does these
monster panels sound?
Well, I'm ready for
surprises when it comes to speakers. I've
been reading a lot about similar systems using
the single-cap approach, and I've always been
more than sceptical and the first single-cap run
confirms my scepticism. At least for these
drivers it doesn't work.
The sensitivity of this panel is phenomenal,
reaching a healthy 100 dB/2.8 volts in all of the
midband. Actually the JBL tweeter is working hard
to make up to the two other drivers, but despite
the apparent sloped response towards the top
octave, treble seems to be well balanced from
having no attenuation on the tweeter.
Reaching ear-shredding levels, I measure no more
than 5-6 volts peak RMS on speaker terminals,
accounting for some 5-6 watts. This means that
even flea-powered amps can be in here and I
haven't been able to drive the MAE1 amp to any
noticeable distortion levels.
Obviously there's no boxy
sound
from this panel. The bass comes out clear and
punchy and listening to acoustic bass is most
enjoyable. It's also obvious that the bass is not
as deep as had the Goodmans been placed in an
e.g. Onken vented box. So, how about the mid
running so high? Well, I hear treble crisp and
clean, but dispersion - or lack of the same - in
upper mid and lower treble is very noticeable. In
that sense it resembles electrostatic speakers.
Move your head a little and the soundstage
changes a lot. There's a hot spot, no doubt about
it. However, due to the dipole status, this is
more tolerable than expected. A dipole tweeter
might be interesting to try, but where do we find
a suitable planar at this level of sensitivity?
Transparency is excellent but suffers from near
wall placement, and it's obvious my current
placement is not ideal for the panels. They need
more space to the rear wall and would probably
perform even better from a placement like this:

Should you by coincident have these drivers at
hand, try it out and prepare for some enjoyable
moments. Be prepared to experiment a lot on room
placement and possible damping sheets on nearby
walls. It may shake your views on conventional
hifi speakers, what they can and what they
certainly cannot. Be prepared that WAF is ultra
low. And it takes will not to play these panels
loud - because they can play very loud -
so take care of your hearing. Have a nice summer!
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Measurements

Left:
SPL from "single-cap" set-up. Doesn't
look too bad, but the 5-10 kHz region is too
high, making an aggressive sound on most
recordings. The LE26 contribution all the way
down to 1-1.5 kHz may be part of the problem.
Right: Impedance of system from
"single-cap" set-up. Shouldn't be a
problem for any amplifier. This is a 5 ohms
speakers due to relatively low impedance of the
Supravox.
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Left:
Response from Goodmans Axiom 150 mkII with and
without crossover.
Right: Measurements made at 0.25 meter of all
drivers with crossover - and heavy smoothing.
Possibly the LE26 response can be further
improved. Inverting tweeter polarity suggests
decent performance.
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Left:
64 ms reading at 2½ meter distance with ½
octave smoothing of response in workshop. Left
and right speaker shown. Now, my workshop is
definitely not ideal for these panels with an
average huge lift in the response from 100-400
Hz. However, I do warn not to put too much into
these measurements. Sounds better than it looks.
Right: Impedance of system with full crossover.
Still an easy load for any amplifier.
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Philips 9710 fullrange on OB7

I've had a request on setting up my 9710s on
the OB7 and give my opinion on performance.
Without too much trouble the 9710s would fit into
the Supravox rebates.
I started out with my current classical
favourite: Heinz Holliger plays J.S.Bach/3 Oboe
Concertos/Philips/6514304. Vinyl obviously.
Playback level was moderate. After listening a
few minutes on-axis I had to leave the room
because my ears started hurting! If we look
above, we see the frequency response of the 9710
(not from the OB7) and we have the whole 2.5-15
kHz region some 5-10 dB above average level. We
have a huge peak at 3.5 kHz, right where the ear
reaches it's highest sensitivity and where it
hurts the most if things don't perform smoothly.
Some good things too. The bass isn't bad at all
despite a modest membrane area trying to push the
room air. It gives you a nice idea about what is
going on in the lower registers. The whole of the
midrange is good too. No problem here.
Perspective is seriously compromised from treble
level being way too high. Treble as such isn't
bad at all, just much too much of it. I wasn't
even thinking in terms of tweeters to supplement
the 9710. Going back to my working desk - in the
next room - and
"listening-from-the-other-room"
actually was pretty joyful. I can imagine the
9710 pointing upwards in the vintage Carlsson construction wasn't bad at
all because you would never meet the 9710
"face to face".
Long time ago I had a mail from a guy in
Indonesia using two of these 9710s - connected in
series - on an open baffle. And he was writing
positively about their sonic performance. Well, I
have my doubts. By any standard it's seriously
low-fi.
This experiment took me to
the next one: The Supravox run fullrange.
Supravox 215RTF64 directly connected to my 6AS7
single ended triodes. So back in went the Supras
without any equalisation at all.
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Supravox 215RTF64 fullrange
on OB7

To the right the
frequency response of the 215RTF64 is seen. A rather
wide measuring window is used with modest
smoothing.
This driver does well all the way up to 9 kHz
with no nasty peak above 10 kHz. It simply dies
from lack of ability to move mass above 9,000
cycles per second. Excellent! And very much like
the French PHY-PH/H 21 LB15, which I'd like to
hear. The guy asking for the 9710 set-up also
told the PHY-PH drivers, despite showing similar
frequency response as seen above, didn't need a
tweeter at all. Well, I guess this Supra is a
more affordable way of rendering a taste of the
PHY-PHs. The Supras run fullrange are way better
than the 9710. No doubt about it.
With a frequency response up
to 9 kHz, most treble information is there.
It sounds slightly "vintage" if you get
my meaning. Not like old AM radio, far from, but
you miss some airiness enhancing the spacial
properties of the presentation. I can to some
extent understand why "uncompromising"
audiophiles settle here.
"Uncompromising", because this approach
is full of compromises - to my mind. I too like
things to be as uncomplicated as possible. Simple
solutions can hold a lot of beauty. But the price
to pay for this single driver set-up is high.
Adding the equalising circuit seen below,
provides a presentation being smooth and without
edges. Simply adding a coil won't work, because
we'll start loosing treble already at 6-7 kHz.
With a series LCR circuit we can maintain full
level up to 9 kHz.
The Supra on a 1.5 m^2 baffle simply lacks bass.
Adding more baffles doesn't help. In this
respect, the 9710 appeared slightly better. The
Supra now sounds like what it looks like on paper
- an extremely broad-banded midrange driver. And
it's good - very good.
Inserting the Goodmans again via the 3.9 mH coil
including impedance correcting RC circuit is a
major step up. From resembling an indeed very
good "transistor radio", it now has
body and weight and gain momentum in the entire
frequency band it covers. Listening to my
favourite jazz LPs, I still miss the airiness of
the cymbals and instruments with high frequency
information. They become distant and somewhat
closed-in due to lack of the upper octave. Very
noticeable on piano too, by the way.
Well, unless we can find a fullrange driver
including a whizzer cone that performs e.g. +/- 2
dB from 500 Hz to 15 kHz, the single driver
concept calls for serious compromises. Living
with a frequency band from 100-10,000 Hz is like
going back to the Fifties. They made some
terrific recordings in that late Fifties from
which we today can fully extract all the goodies
if we don't necessarily also adopt the standard
household music appliances of that time. We can
do much better - and with simple means as has
been demonstrated.
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The final experiment

After
the fullrange experiments I went back to the 3-way
system and as a final option changed the point of crossover between
mid and tweeter to approx. 3.3 kHz. Impedance
still remains good although dipping to 3 ohms at
8 kHz. My amps didn't mind.
What immediately was clear going from a) Goodmans
+ Supra fullrange to b) Goodmans + Supra up to
6.5 kHz and finally to c) Goodmans + Supra up to
3.5 kHz was the gradual increase in level of
transparency. The sensation of detail and
micro-dynamics gradually increases taking this
journey and somehow I feel certain this is not
due to reduction in rear radiated energy
reflected back from the rear wall. It's more
subtler than that. The way 8" fullrange
drivers radiate energy in the treble area is my
prime suspect parameter. No matter how an 8"
fullrange driver is made, beaming will start
around 2 kHz, where the wavelength is smaller
than the cone diameter. For the Supra this will
occur already below 2 kHz having a cone diameter
of ~17.5 cm. Beaming smears detail and makes
complex musical events sound congested and
distorted when we reach a certain level of
playback. I've read the same reservation in a
PHY-PH review in a Swedish magazine. This from a
12" PHY-PH driver. Taking a 12" to 7
kHz calls for a few compromises. What usually
knocks people off their feet from these
high-efficiency drivers is the dynamic
properties, the phenomenal transient attack - but
again, it comes at a price.
I do not hear any
disadvantage of using these drivers with
conventional crossovers. For the purist, even
running the Supra to 6-7 kHz may be acceptable.
For most musical genres this provides significant
improved performance compared to the
non-equalised fullrange presentation. For the
Supra, very few components are needed to render a
balanced sound of instruments and vocals. There's
no reason these drivers cannot be used in ways
where we can start talking "high
fidelity" in the true sense of the words. I
mean, the musical signal is passed through
countless wires and connectors, transistors,
valves, resistors, capacitors, etc., before
reaching the speaker. Not equalising frequency
response from your loudspeakers - if need be - is
like drinking an expensive vintage wine from a
mug.
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Eidsfjord, Norway, 2007
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