QUATTRO     90 dB/2.8V, 40 litre vented design from JA8008/TW034 drivers
           
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QUATTRO is the forth construction based on the JA-8008/TW034 high-efficiency drivers, thus "QUATTRO", just to pick a language with a nice word for "four". The other constructions are TQWT, DTQWT and OBL-11.
Quite a number of people have asked for the JA8008/TW034 sound in a smaller cabinet and there are a few issues to address when doing so. The JA8008 driver is a low-Qt, high-efficiency driver and not directly suitable for small vented cabs unless we sacrifice some bass extension or system sensitivity. If we target F3 around 40-45 Hz from 40 liter vented enclosure, we have to sacrifice system sensitivity, in fact we have to "ruin" the low Qt of the main driver.
To equalise the response of the 8008 driver, a baffle step compensation circuit may be used, simply consisting of a coil bypassed by series resistor. From thereon we can start modelling the response of the two drivers to make a point of crossover similar to what is used for the TQWT/DTQWT/OB9. On the positive side of this approach is a system impedance on the good side of 8 ohms! Something valve amp lovers will appreciate despite a "modest" 90-91 dB sensitivity.

I have added measurement files on another page as measurements in reality tells close to nothing about how a loudspeaker actually sounds. What we can get from measurements is a good idea of what amps may be needed, roughly an idea of the tonal balance of the speaker and we may get an idea of bass extension too. The QUATTRO is tuned more flat compared to TQWT and DTQWT and I won't hesitate to recommend the speaker also for recording studios, although I know these guys sometimes listen to the weirdest things. They may listen for specific qualities in a recording requiring a lot on linear distortion, but what I can assure from this speaker is a linear response with tons of detail. It does Siri's vocal very well and it does all the acoustic instruments as well, like the flute, oboe, violin, piano, which I use for voicing a speaker.

Drivers and components


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Cabinet
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Cabinet made from 22 mm MDF, except for front panel (30 mm), should make 2.56*2.98*5.56 = 42.4 liter net volume. Adding bitumen pads, port, braces, drivers, etc., will further reduce volume a liter or two. Do not be too keen on this, anything from 38-42 liters will work perfectly as long as front panel dimensions and driver placement is maintained. For my cabs I used 21 mm Baltic birch and 30 mm for the front panel laminated from 21 + 9 mm sheets. Front panel fillets are made from 30 x 50 mm solid maple wood.

I often have the question whether Baltic birch is better than MDF and I honestly can't tell. I never made two pairs of speakers from both materials to compare sonic impact. From a well-braced cabinet added bitumen pads, I don't think there will be much difference.
I use Baltic birch as it gives me the final finish without having the trouble of applying veneer - and I just happen to like the appearance of lacquered Baltic birch although it's not an easy material to use. Read below.

The QUATTRO need stands. To my ears - and sofa - 45 cm height. I listen to the QUATTROs slightly toed in and as usual in my living room, 1 meter from the front wall and ~1.8 meters from side walls. My speakers are placed on the long side of the room, thus very little roomgain.

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BOX SIMULATION


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To reduce system sensitivity some 4-5 dB compared to TQWT and DTQWT, a 3.9 mH coil bypassed by ~3.3 ohm is used.
Eventually during fine-tuning, R1011 was set to 5 ohms consisting of two 10 ohms (10 watt) resistors in parallel.
We do burn some energy here and we want R1011 (R2011 in schematics below) to stay cool.

The port:
Fb = 36 Hz, port dimensions: 68 mm Ø x 112 mm length (don't change the supplied port of 120 mm length)
Fb = 38 Hz, port dimensions: 68 mm Ø x 110 mm length.
Fb = 40 Hz, port dimensions: 68 mm Ø x 84 mm length.
Don't expect any significant changes to the sound from the suggested port tunings. Going from Fb = 36 Hz to as high as 45 Hz only makes + 1 dB @ 63 Hz.


Crossover
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The tweeter's simplistic crossover is basically an LR2 at 3 kHz. Fine-tuning tweeter crossover was done extensively with the help of a sampled and multiplied sequence of "Siri's Killer Note". This proved extremely useful and eventually gave a crossover that would never have emerged from modelling alone.
Tweeter attenuation may be fine-tuned to personal taste, your front gear and room acoustics. I think 4R7 is absolute minimum. Try 5R6 if you find the treble too forward. My default is 5R6 but I'll most likely end up with 6R0 or 6R2 giving e.g. piano and vocals the most natural blend of overtones. 5R6 actually means treble range above 5 kHz 1-1½ dB below average midrange level. I've almost always found this voicing to produce the most natural timbre.
6R0 or 6R2 are not common values. 8R2 in parallel with 22R will make 5.97 ohms and 8R2 in parallel with 27 ohm will make 6.29 ohm, so this may be useful.
3R9, 4R7 and 5R6 are included in the crossover kit, so order extra if you like to experiment. 3R9 is way too high treble level for my taste but some like it hot!

The crossover for the midwoofer is more complex as we need to lower system sensitivity by L2011 bypassed by R2011. Next we have the usual series coil, here 1.2 mH bypassed by an RC circuit of 0.47 uF and 22 ohm in series. Together with R2031+C2031 this helps shaping the 8008 roll-off, which acoustically is close to 3rd order, thus we can maintain positive polarity of both drivers thanks to the added acoustic distance to the tweeter caused by the waveguide. A lot of things were tried to omit the midrange notch filter (R2041+C2041+L2141) but this minor 1.5 dB bump at 600 Hz just proved too much in the long run. Not having the notch filter on certain recordings just made the 8008 driver say: Hey - look at me! Some midrange, huh... Drivers should draw as little attention as possible. Check measurement page to see what it means. Link below.

Crossover Layout


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Wiring. Click image to view large.


Left: Soldering wires to terminal tags. Middle: C-Coil at bottom of cabinet, fastened with screws through felt layer. Right: Both sections in place.


Left: Damping material covering C-coil at bottom. Middle: Main board on rear panel fastened with screws. Right: Damping material covering main board and side panels next to 8008 driver.


Measurements on finished speaker
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Left: SPL at 1 meter, 2 8 volt. Overall system sensitivity = 90 dB/2.8V/1 m.
Right: Final system impedance. Minimum where is matters is 8.3 ohms at 36 Hz and 160 Hz. 7 ohms minimum above 7 kHz.
My 20 watts Audio Mirror SET amps just love these speakers!

For those addicted to measurements, click here to view it all.


Cabinet construction pics

Generally: Never route for ports and drivers before at hand! Nor drill holes for terminals before at hand.
Do your own measurements and make test routings before doing the actual cabinets. With Baltic birch there's no room for errors.

Last but not least: Below is an attempt to make a nice Baltic birch solution. Baltic birch is not a particularly easy material for cabinet construction and the
front panels take solid maple and mahogany fillets, not something that can be made without access to a decent table saw. Obviously the same cabs can
be made from 8 sheets/cabinet of MDF - and the sonic results will most likely be the same. Choice is yours. Happy building!


Left: All parts for one speaker. Right: Test assembly with painter's tape. Mahogany fillets for front panel.


Left: Checking rear panel fit before gluing.


Routing the brace panels. Quite some holes, but with a 6 mm router bit Baltic birch is easy. I rounded the edges because it looks nice.


Left: Gluing the first cabinet. Only painter's tape and two straps are used. Measure front diagonal to make sure it's truly rectangular!
Right: Placement of port and terminals.


Routing for the port. Diameter = 96.5 mm. Make a hole having a diameter approx. 0.2 mm less than measured diameter of port base so that
you have to squeeze in the port and it stays firm - and can be removed again for preferred port tuning.


Left: Drilling holes for terminals (7 mm). Right: Gluing front panel vertical fillets. Only tape is used.


Left: Checking top and bottom front panel fillets before gluing. Right: Gluing the same.


Left: Gluing front panel side fillets. Right: Routing for the waveguide. When routing for the 8008 driver, the waveguide must be in place.


Routing finished. Final thing I do is cutting length of front panel on a table saw.
Front panel side fillets have been trimmed by routing, keeping the front in place by two clamps.
This I do before routing for drivers to have a place surface for the router. Sliding over holes is not a good idea.

Trimmer router bit.

Do not forget to chamfer JA8008 driver hole on rear side. 45 deg. at ~15 mm depth.


Router bit used for chamfering.

Before gluing the front panel:


Gluing a front panel to the cabinet will never be 100% perfect, thus before gluing the front panel to the cabinet I always make a small groove, 1.5 x 1.5 mm, on cabinet front edges.
This is also a way of handling the real drawback of Baltic birch: Ripped edges. The outer veneer of Baltic birch is rather soft and either sawing or routing will often lead to a ripped edge.


Left: Router with guide. Right: Smooth the groove with some grade ~400 sandpaper and start sanding the opposite way of routing not to rip edges.

Bitumen damping pads

First of all: Bitumen pads damp panel resonances. It does not absorb sound at all. (I have this question regularly).


Adding the first 4 mm bitumen layers. Although the bitumen pads I use are self-adhesive,
I use an adhesive meant for floor vinyl, having flexible properties - and presumably adds to damping properties.
Self-adhesive pads like these heavy 4 mm sheets tend to fall off over time if not glued.


Bitumen pads used for damping panel vibration.
In total 1 m^2 bitumen pads is needed.

Cabinet damping

Two materials are used for cabinet damping: 10-12 mm (green) felt and Monacor MDM3.
In replacement of MDM3, use any kind of 4-5 cm dacron/polyester/whatever damping material and if felt is not available, 10 mm polyester foam.

GREEN FELT


Green felt on all internal panels except front panel, that is: On front panel in front of the vent I added green felt too plus a layer of MDM3.
For keeping the felt in place I used Pattex "no-more-nails" glue. Three strips of glue/felt sheet.

MDM3:


In total (2 cabs) 3 rolls of MDM3 is used. One roll contains two sheets of 63 x 33 x 3.5 cm damping material.
One sheet at top, one sheet at bottom and one sheet on top of crossover and on sides behind 8008 driver.
In total approx. 1.25 m^2 of damping material is needed if thickness is close to 35 mm as for MDM3.


FINALLY -


Finally! Sanded, lacquered, ready for mounting of drivers, ports, terminals, etc.


Left: Cheap trick: If your routings are tight, you may have trouble removing drivers for changing damping materials, crossover tweaking, etc.
Chassis holes are Ø 5 mm, make 6 mm threads in two opposite holes! Makes life a lot easier when removing the driver :-)


Secure leads from drivers like seen on photos. Ripped terminals are a real pain! Wires used are silver plated copper in teflon.
Read
here how you fasten the waveguide to the tweeter.


Parts list
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Example of level-2 parts list.

Complete kit only available from Jantzen Audio: contact@jantzen-audio.com
Contact Jantzen Audio for shipping details - please state which country.
All technical questions at
troels.gravesen@hotmail.com

Download level 1 here: Superior-Z-Caps - STANDARD Z-Cap - all baked wire coils (845 EUR incl. VAT)
Download level 2
here: Silver Z-Caps - Superior-Z-Caps - C-Coils/WAX/baked wire coils (1,065 EUR incl. VAT)
Download level 3
here: Silver/Gold-Caps - Superior-Z-Caps - C-Coils/WAX/baked wire coils (1,155 EUR incl. VAT)
Download luxury version level 4
here: Silver/Gold Caps - Superior-Z - WAX/baked wire coils. (1,308 EUR incl. VAT)

Damping material available:
Order 1 sqm "bitumen pad with felt layer" - and
2 sqm polyester "damping cloth material" (20 mm thickness). I suggest 3 layers of this material for 2 layers of MDM3.

Download crossover layout for low-cost version here.


Also check out TQWT, DTQWT, OB9 and OBL-11 for other constructions featuring the JA8008/TW034wg duo.

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