SEAS 5-inch Mini Monitors

From left: SEAS CA15RLY, W15CY001 and W15LY001
Tweeter: 22 TAF/G (H1283)
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Click driver id for full data (SEAS website)
10th December, 2007.
The CA15RLY and W15LY001 versions
from this project are finished and I'm left with
the task of writing something about these drivers?
Hmm...they're all good, but for various reasons.
From the CA15RLY you get a dynamic little speaker
that I'm sure will satisfy most if you know what
you can expect from 75 cm^2 cone area. The
W15LY001 costs more than twice the CA15RLY price
and as always we apply to the law of diminishing
return. The W15LY001 is a better driver.
It provides a tad deeper bass and it can be
driven a harder without noticeable distortion.
But some may prefer the more vivid presentation
from the cheaper brother.
I've used the 22TAF/G tweeter in other - not
published - constructions, and once more I like
what I hear from this small 3/4" dome with
the wide surround. I haven't made the W15CY001
version yet and it's to be heard if this tiny
fellow can match the HIQUPHON OWI tweeter used in
the W15-OWI construction. They're
both 3/4" domes but one is a classic, coated
fabric dome and the other a hard dome made from
aluminium. Due to the small diameter of the alu
dome the inherent cone break-up seems to be as
high as 30 kHz or more. And the wide surround
makes us want to treat it as a 1" dome
although we have to realise that the smaller
voice coil won't take as much heat as a 1"
voice coil, but from a 3rd order filter, this is
not a problem as we won't play any of these three
speakers excessively loud. Small minis are not
for Saturday parties.
The CA15CY001 system is the
"Joe-Cool" of the gang presented here.
With 83 dB sensitivity it's slightly less dynamic
compared to the other two, but the lack of
colouration from the magnesium cone is hard to
ignore. This speaker tells you very much what's
on the recording, but in a non-aggressive way as
can be the case from speakers with an elevated
upper midrange or treble voicing.
Overall there's a steadily
progression in clarity and naturalness going
from the CA15RLY over the W15LY001 to the
W15CY001 driver, with a wider gap between the
CA15 and the W15LY compared to W15LY and W15CY.
The latter two are close with the increased
sensitivity of the W15LY being the key
difference.
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The Cabinet

PartsExpress
cabs: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=302-717
TS-data

For TS data
"added volume" method has been used. As
always some discrepancy between claimed data and
actual measurements. Dependent on actual signal
applied to the units during measurements, we can
have different results. No surprise.
For the W15LY001 (nextel
coated driver) the correlation is good. The
magnesium driver is well used and still maintain
Fs = ~50 Hz. The CA15RLY is a lightly coated
paper cone and I wonder if this driver really has
higher Mms compared to W15LY001, as claimed by
SEAS.
None of these drivers have particular low Qt and
the magnesium and nextel drivers are close to
being "closed-box-only" drivers. But
these are all small drivers and we need the extra
bass from the vented enclosures.
The port: I've
used Jantzen Audio #900023, 50 x 120 mm (Ø x L)
for all drivers.
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Cabinet dimensions
and damping

Cabinet
front panel dimensions and driver placement. If
you make your own cabs, calculate cabinet depth
to make 11.5 litre internal volume, e.g. from 19
mm MDF approx. 200 x 350 x 270 mm outer
dimensions (W x H x D).
Use bracing in the middle of the cabinet and add
e.g. 4 mm bitumen pads on all internal panels
except front panel.
I've used 10 mm polyester foam for damping +
additional MDM3 on top and bottom of cabinet.
Some MDM3 is used to cover the crossover attached
to the rear panel.
Don't forget to experiment with the MDM3
(acoustilux). This 11.5 litre cabinet does take
some damping material. Initially I had used too
little damping and the W15LY001 got too boomy.
Experiment and listen carefully. A significant
part of the voicing of a speaker is determined by
amount of damping material used.
Preliminary webpage on damping: http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/cabinet-damping.htm
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The 5-inch drivers, basic
performance

Left: SPL from
drivers at 2.8V, 1 metre
distance. Blue =
W15CY001 (new), red =
CA15RLY, green =
W15LY001.
The 300-400 Hz region gives us an idea about what
system sensitivity we can expect from these
drivers. The W15CY001 (magnesium) doesn't allow
more than 82-83 dB/2.8V, where the other two
suggest 85-86 dB system sensitivity. Let's see
where it all ends.
Right: SPL from
"new" and "old" W15CY001
magnesium driver. I had a mail from Finland
suggesting differences between former and present
5" magnesium drivers and so it appears. I've
got a pair of both. The newer drivers have a
minor bend to the cone where it meets the voice
coil, allowing a larger area for gluing - and
this is pushing break-up nodes towards higher
frequences - but also with higher amplitude. From
initial modelling this doesn't make much
difference to the crossover, but minor
adjustments to the notch-filter have to be made.
Actually the "old" driver appears
easier on modelling due to lower impedance where
we need correction to be done.
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W15LY001+22TAF/G
Nextel coated driver
Box simulation

Click image to view large.
Port used is 50 x 120 mm (Ø x length). Vent tuning = 50
Hz.
(disregard LspCAD vent calc.)
W15LY001 + 22TAF/G Crossover


Complete crossover
kit incl all above +/- drivers is available from Jantzen
Audio: contact@jantzen-audio.com
W15LY001 Measurements

Left:
The W15LY001 has an extended frequency range, all
the way up to 10 kHz. A minor peak at 5.7 kHz
didn't produce any problems during crossover
construction. Tweeter response equally manageable
with a flat response from 3-22 kHz.
Right: Red = summed response from drivers driven
from crossover and merged at 300 Hz with
nearfield bass response. Blue = summed response
with inverted tweeter polarity. Point of
crossover is 2.8 kHz.
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Left:
Red = summed response of drivers driven from
crossover. Blue = bass response. Green = tweeter
response.
Right: System impedance reaching a 4 ohms minimum
at 300-400 Hz. Overall an easy load on the
amplifier.
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Left:
System response from left and right speaker at 1
metre distance, 2.8 volts input. System
sensitivity is around 85 dB/2.8 volts.
Right: System response (red) and minimum phase
(blue).
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CA15RLY+22TAF/G
Paper cone driver


Click image to view large.
Port used is 50 x 120 mm (Ø x length). Vent tuning = 50
Hz.
(disregard LspCAD vent calc.)
The CA15RLY Crossover


Complete crossover
kit incl all above +/- drivers is available from Jantzen
Audio: contact@jantzen-audio.com
CA15RLY Measurements

Left:
System response at 1 metre distance, 2.8 volts
input. System sensitivity is around 86 dB/2.8
volts, slightly higher than the W15LY001 system.
Right: System response in red and blue = response
with inverted tweeter polarity.
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Left:
Purple and green display response of individual
drivers driven from crossover.
Right: System impedance reaching a 3.8 ohms
minimum at 400-500 Hz. Still an easy load on the
amp.
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CA15RLY+22TAF/G
built by Koen/Belgium

"In attachment
I put the result of what you get if you put a seas mini
monitor too close to an Ekta G"
Thanks, Koen. Troels ;-)
W15CY001+22TAF/G
Magnesium driver


Click image to view large
The W15CY001 Crossover


Complete crossover
kit incl all above +/- drivers is available from Jantzen
Audio: contact@jantzen-audio.com
W15CY001 Measurements
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Left:
Red = summed response from system. Blue = tweeter
with inverted polarity.
Right: Left and right speaker from final
crossover.
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Left:
System impedance. Lowest impedance is 4.7 ohm at
400-500 Hz.
Right: "New W15 driver": Significance
of RC-circuit across series coil. An easy way to
reduce cone break-up.
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Left:
Red = summed response of drivers driven from
crossover. Blue and yellow = bass and treble
driven from crossover. Point of crossover = 2400
Hz.
Right: Same thing, here with the "old W15
driver". Actually this is a tad better than
the new one as predicted from LspCAD simulation.
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Left:
System response at 1 metre distance, tweeter
height and 2.8 V input. System sensitivity = 83
dB/2.8V.
Right: Tweeter attenuation. Red = 8R2, blue =
10R, green = 12.2 ohm. I finally settled on 11.2
ohm, 2 x 5R6 in series.
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Enjoy!
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