SP38/13
ScanSpeak 2-way
floorstander with supertweeter
Copyright © Troels
Gravesen
Why
another 18W/8531G00 sliced paper construction? Didn't the
SP95 and the SP98 do well? Why possibly a reduced cabinet
volume? And why does USXX predict an optimum 22 litre cab
for the 18W driver? Who is USXX and what has LspCAD to do
with this?
Well, first of all, this construction dates back to the
SP95 where I tried the Scan-Speak D3806/8200 mid-dome
from 1600 Hz and the HIQUPHON OWI on top from 13 kHz. I
only made a single cabinet from this set-up and never
tried in full stereo. The measurements looked good and
the sound from the single speaker was promising, so here
we go with the SP38/13, a potent 33 litre floorstander
providing deep solid bass from the 18W/8531-G00 bass
driver. Overall system sensitivity is around 85-86
dB/2.8V and you need a min. 50 wpc amplifier to drive the
speakers. The large 3806 dome goes low and releaves the
bass driver of handling upper mid/lower treble area, an
ideal situation for the bass driver. The cabinets are
tilted 5 deg. to provide an ideal listening window and
keep driver phase tracking at optimum. Due to crossover
topology an even vertical dispersion is allowed.

The
Drivers

The 18W/8531G00
hardly needs another introduction and for this
application I have compared the damar-coated to the
uncoated drivers and I still prefer the damar-coated.
However, you may use the un-coated here without any
changes to the crossover.
The D2010/8513 does a good job from 13 kHz. This
may not be my favourite tweeter when we are talking
two-way systems with a point of crossover around 2.5-3.5
kHz, but as a super-tweeter I have no objections. And
it's cheaper than the HIQUPHON OWI.
The D3806/8200 driver: Well, this is the driver
that makes this construction special. To be honest, few
6-7 drivers manage to perform well in the 2-4 kHz
range. Most drivers will start rolling off around 3 kHz
or they start beaming when the wavelength equals the
membrane diameter and would be better off with a smaller
driver taking over from around 1-2 kHz, but in commercial
designs, cost is an object and the crossover may be more
complicated and final production control more time
consuming. Not a problem for the diy people. We have all
the time in the world for our hobby. Well, cost may be an
object, but the 3806/8200 is no more expensive than the
9500 tweeter and a cheaper super-tweeter could be used,
like the Vifa D20TD-05-06 or a ¾ from SEAS. We
only need to have a linear response between
10 and 20 kHz and this may be easier to find around 19-20
mm domes.
As mentioned in the Acapella files, its hard to
ignore the history of Spendor. Spendor will gladly use a
1½" mid dome (actually the 3806/8200) from only 3
kHz in the SP1/2 construction. A 19 mm dome will not go
lower than 4-4.5 kHz, and so on. The lesson to be learned
from this practise is this: Always use drivers capable of
reaching preferably 1-2 octaves below the intended
operating range (for good reasons this doesnt apply
for the bass driver!).

Looking at the D3806 as a tweeter it appears huge. The
pole piece is covered with a thin copper foil, symmetric
drive,
to reduce eddy currents and reduce distortion. The voice
coil gap is made from machined parts. Not an everyday
sight.
Left: The frequency
response of the D3806 driver (blue) is not that flat, but
it is easily equalised to gain a flat response up to 15
kHz. This driver can almost be used as a stand-alone
tweeter. I guess some damping material on the pole piece
might do well.
Right: D3806/8200 impedance profile (green). The copper
plating of the pole piece appears to do its job producing
an almost flat impedance response from 1500 Hz to 22 kHz.
The impedance peak around 900 Hz may be taken care of. So
much for the drivers.
Box size and who is
USXX?
Well, on a Danish
diy-website a guy was discussing the possibility of
setting up a large system: 2 x 18W/8531G00 + 15M/4531 +
R29 (the horrific expensive D2904/7000 tweeter from
Scan-Speak).
I shan't reveal the identity of USXX (his discussion
forum identity) although he leaves no doubt he is an
engineer working at Scan-Speak and furthermore refers to
the 18W//8531 being "my baby". And USXX was
also the guy from Scan-Speak giving a suitable
explanation for inconsistency in production of the
18W/8535-00 drivers used for the 2.5 clones. (Yes, you
can get his name here, page 38). So, nice that someone
from speaker production takes time to give comments on
these pages. First time I've ever seen this.
Interestingly, USXX recommends a 22 litre ported cabinet
with a vent tuning of 33 Hz for the 18W/8531G00 driver
giving the best step response according to his
calculations/simulations - and from first hand experience
having a three-way system with 2 x 18W/8531G00 for bass.
The SP95/98 takes a 33 litre vented enclosure with a port
tuning of 33-34 Hz and I've been pleased with the bass
performance from this set-up giving a deep and
articulated bass response. Obviously I had to try
reducing cabinet volume and target a 33 Hz tuning. The
SP95/98 test cabinet is almost made into section by the
bracing and it was easy to blank off the lower part of
the cabinet giving a volume of 23 litre and a new port
(46 mm (ID) x 200 mm) was inserted giving a port tuning
around 35 Hz. Not too far off target - the cabinet
couldn't accommodate a longer vent. (By the way: USXX
recommends a 28 litre cabinet for the 8535 driver with a
port tuning of 30 Hz! This is not exactly the 2.5 clone
prescription, but well in line with the Point75a
construction. Making 25 litre cabs with a vent tuning of
28 Hz gave a more controlled and articulate bass
performance.
Left; Green = 33
litre volume, vent = 72 x 200 mm. Red = 23 litre volume,
vent 46 x 200 mm.
The vent tuning of the 23 litre cab didn't exactly hit
the 33 Hz target, more like 35 Hz but let it be. As can
be seen the damping of the 8531 driver is increased from
going to 23 litre volume, i.e. smaller peaks (vent too
small?) and a better phase profile = easier load on the
amplifier.
Sinusoidal measurements (right image above) suggest we
have more bass from a 33 litre cabinet - and this is also
how it appears when listening to music, but it's very
hard to determine which is best. What strikes the most is
the difference in sound - there's an enormous difference
in sound from the two drivers. The bass from the 23 litre
cab may sound more dry and "fast", but I may
use the phrase "fast" because I know it's
supposed to be fast. The sound of a kick-drum from the 33
litre cab just sounds deeper.
The impact on midrange presentation is hard to ignore.
Going from 33 litres to 23 litres has an immediate
presence effect on the midrange and I'm not sure which
one I like the most. From the 33 litre cab the midrange
may sound a little dark and retracted where the 23 litres
gives a very forward sound pulling vocals right up to the
front of the speaker with subjectively reduced depth.
Hmm.... This is tough! Actually I think I would prefer
something in-between. Say 28 litre and same vent
tuning..... We'll see.

Test cabs aside SP95 (middle)
More on sound
Making A-B tests
from a variety of music on the 23 litre and 33 litre
cabinets didn't give any conclusive results, but I'm in
favour of the sound coming from the 33 litre cab being
more round and deep. The upper bass and lower midrange
appear to have more weight and remember, we're still
dealing with a relatively small speaker here.150 square
centimetres membrane area is the determining factor for
the scale of sound we can expect from a basically two-way
floorstander.
The general sound is just what it appears to be from the
SPL-graph shown above. It's direct and there's a lot of
detail - and three-dimensionality is indeed very good. As
is often the case from speakers with very flat response
profiles this is likely to produce excessive sibilance
from certain recordings. Sibilance mostly is related to
level, not quality, so in most cases this can be taken
care of by proper attenuation. There are so many things
the shown crossover does right, so I've been reluctant to
make major changes to this basic set-up - and I won't
even try making a series crossover for comparison. But
read on... Plus/minus 1-2 dB in the 2-8 kHz range can
make a world of difference to how we perceive the overall
sound from a loudspeaker. In the good old days - which
were not always as good as we may think - loudspeakers
often had two L-pads for adjusting the midrange and
tweeter level. L-pads were banished in any
"true" hifi connection claimed of deteriorating
the sound and maybe they did, I don't know. But depending
on the electronics in front of the speakers and not to
forget the room acoustics, most speakers often need minor
adjustment of overall tonal balance to suit the actual
set-up. But it has to be said that these L-pads were
mostly used to produce a loudness effect, i.e. turning
down the midrange - because the midrange is always the
most troublesome area - and turning up the tweeter to
give some highs. "Tizz-and-boom" - and without
the help of the speaker constructor. But we're not going
to use L-pads - definitely not.
Raising the 3806 series resistor from 1R0 to 2R2 removes
some of the forwardness sometimes coming from this driver
from less than supreme recordings. And the super-tweeter
needs further attenuation for matching the upper treble
level and 6R8 is replaced by 10R. So, now the overall
balance is more in line with the BBC-dip philosophy.
However, this may suit my ears and it's easy and no-cost
to make your own preferred voicing from making these two
changes. Valves - being more tolerable - may prefer the
1R5 or 1R8 to the 3806. Changing the 13-20 kHz region
doesn't chance the sound noticeably, but for the sake of
order....
I liked the sound from this set-up very much and was
planning to make all the measurements needed for
publication. I never was quite satisfied from the
phase-tracking between the 18W/8531 and the D3806/8200.
The SPL response was nice but inverting the polarity
didnt produce the desired dip around the point of
crossover. So, time to analyse the whole thing a little
more closely and doing so by the LspCAD, http://www.ijdata.com/, revealed that a 4th order
crossover topology might be better suited to meet the
target phase tracking.
The "problem" with the LspCAD is that you in a
short time can produce dozens of crossovers that has to
be tested sonically. The good thing is that when your
basic measurements of the individual drivers are done
right, the software prediction is usually what you get.
For once calculations and the real world appear to join
hands.

Predicted response from crossover.

Actual response from crossover, 8513 not included.
The
final cab drawings
After having decided
on cabinet construction the following drawings were made
and the tests cabs were modified to off-set the 3806 and
8513 tweeters as depicted above. Quite some task to
modify the test cabs but worthwhile before handing over
the drawings to the cabinetmaker. This time I wont
make the final cabinets myself.

SP38/13 crossover schematics.

Measurements
Measurements are not
normalised for 2.8V/1 meter, thus do not reflect system
sensitivity.

Left: SPL from
individual drivers again. Black = 8531. This is a damar
coated 8531 showing a dip at 3 kHz and a peak at 3.7 kHz
and the lesson to be learned from this is to be prepared
to all sorts of surprises when you apply coatings. No
problem in this construction due to low point of
crossover between 8531 and 3806, but this wouldn't work
in a 2-way system with higher point of crossover. Blue =
3806 and red = 8513.
Right: Impedance of
drivers, already commented above.

Left: Red = overall
system response. Blue = same without supertweeter. Green
= inverted 3806 polarity. Right: Wavelengths at 13 kHz
are short, very short and moving the microphone just a
little up and down easily creates dips at point of
crossover between 3806 and 8513. Fortunately this is very
hard to hear.

Left: Step response. Right: Vertical dispersion at +/- 5,
10 and 15 deg.
Comments to
measurements:
As discussed before, dont pay too much attention to
what is going on above 10 kHz. The wavelengths are so
short here that moving the microphone only one centimetre
up and down will make a completely new picture.
I was pleased to see that the middle treble response was
smoothed by off-setting the tweeters, so apparently there
was something to the suspicion on wavelength and cabinet
width interfering here. The overall impedance profile
looks good. Minimum impedance is about 6 ohms and the
phase angles are not severe. A fairly easy load I should
say.
Sound:
As always, the most difficult part. This is a very
neutral sounding speaker. Due to the very flat response
profile a good tonal balance is heard from instruments
and vocals. This is not always the case. Only a minor
BBC-dip here. The bass is deep and articulate
exceeding the 2.5 clone. Its also a quite
revealing speaker and it will tell you right away the
quality of your source material.
Getting the 8531 down to about 70 cm above floor level
helped in giving the acoustic scenario a more realistic
position in my listening room. I always felt a bit uneasy
from having the ever so important midrange either too
high or too low relative to my listening position.
This speaker has a great level of transparency and throws
a wide soundstage and is going to be my reference for my
two-way designs because this is basically a
two-way design with added supertweeter.
SP38/13 construction
pictures
Here are a number of
pictures taking during mounting the vent, adding damping
material and mounting drivers and crossovers. A vent
tuning discussion will appear at: http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/vent_tuning.htm, as I here have tried various flanged and
flared vents to measure the impact on performance.
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Left: Flaring of vent opening. Right: Alternative vent.
Vent tube = 180 mm x 72 mm (ID), Fb = 36 Hz.
Right: Monacor BR-60TR vent: ID = 54 mm at inlet, 60 mm
at outlet. Length = 140 mm. This actually works fine and
produces a Fb of 34 Hz.

Damping material used. 4 mm self-adhesive bitumen pads
added to all internal panels. This adds considerably to
the weight of the enclosure. Above approx. 12 mm felt
material. This is probably a mixture of cotton and
polyester material made into felt sheets. This is what
I'll be using for the SP38/13. Alternatively I use 10 mm
heavy polyester foam also added to all internal panels.
Last but not least I use this great material - MDM-3
a mixture of sheep's wool and polyester, also from
Monacor. Used for additional damping at top and bottom of
cabinet - and right behind the 8531 driver.
Left: One sheet of damping material cut into two, folded
and placed behind 8531 driver. This may change during
final voicing of the construction.
Middle: ½ roll MDM3 placed at top of cabinet.
Right: A look into the cabinet from bottom. No crossover
applied yet. Vent is glued in place

Left: 3806 dome and supertweeter getting in place. Right:
ll drivers, vents and terminals in place.

Left: Crossover for bass shaping up. Right: Attaching
wires for bass.

Left: Bass crossover in place inside cabinet. Right: 3806
and 8513 crossover at bottom of cabinet.
SP38/13
SZC
July
2008

| Left: Tweeter crossover
section realised with Superior Z-Caps. Right:
Bass crossover section realised with Superior
Z-Caps. Having a
complete set of drivers for the SP38/13, I made
these crossover for a Norwegian guy buying the
drivers and finished crossovers.
This is what it should have looked like, had I
had the Sup. Z-Caps back then.
Crossover layout is
different from what seen above due to the size of
the capacitors. Both boards are 125 x 180 mm, 12
mm Baltic birch.
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