Andy's W15
monitors:


Hi Troels,
How are you? Well, I just want to let you know that
I recently completed the mini monitor you designed and as
you said in your website, they really sound
fabulous. Thanks for the design.
For the xovers, I use ClarityCap SA (their
top-of-the-line) and combined with the Hiquphon, the
treble is one of the best I've heard. Overall they
seems to have a warmness but transparent at the same
time. After listening a few of the Seas magnesium
drivers, I am very impressed with how the human voice is
reproduced.
I also built the TJL and while they are very good, I
think the Hiquphon tweeter + ClarityCap combination is
better than that of the Aurum Cantus ribbon tweeter in
the TJL. Overall they have a similar sound but the
treble of the mini monitor is quite sweeter imho.
And I may say that the mini monitor may have a more
treble and midrange balance. Compared to the
monitor, I feel the midrange of the TJL may be a bit
recessed. I wish someday you would build another
version of the TJL with
a soft dome tweeter such as the Hiquphon. I know
that you and others have very high opinion of these
ribbon tweeters but I feel that they do not have the
presence and sparkle of a good softdome tweeter and have
a harsher sound.
By the way, in your original xover of the TJL which uses
the Foundtek JP3, you mention that the Aurum Cantus G2si
is interchangeable with the Fountek but I had to change
the 5.6ohm in series at the input to 2.2ohm (just like
that of the AcapellaSE tweeter xover) otherwise I found
that the treble is just too attenuated. I attached a
few picture of the monitor in this email.
Thanks for your time.
Andy
My comments:
Thanks to Andy for the report and pictures on the
"W15" and comments on the TJL loudspeakers.
It's been a long time since I heard the W15 monitor and I
always worry whether they still sound good. The W15
monitor was voiced to have a very flat frequency response
and I would probably have done it differently today. The
SEAS W15CY001 ended up in the Point75 loudspeaker and the
HIQUPHON OWIs has been on the shelf ever since.
Regarding the attenuation of the Aurum Cantus G2Si and
the JP3 I'm not too surprised. Quality control and ISO
certification may not be the prime concern of new Chinese
companies and there may be differences in sensitivity
that counts for the low price of the G2Si. Another thing
is that I think AC had to launch a cheap alternative due
to competition from Fountek JP3. But your guess is as
good as mine.
The TJL midrange:
Well, the W15 made a magnificent midrange in the W15
monitor and the Point75 and as discussed in a number of
places on my website, getting it all from two drivers has
its problems: http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/Design_criteria.htm
Making a 15 grams cone of 126 cm^2 mate with a tiny
ribbon or dome ain't easy! A problem that the TJL shares
with all 2-ways based on a 6-7" midbass drivers.
And it's funny you should point out the possibility of a
TJL 3-way exactly a few hours after I have taken the
W18E001, W12CY001 and the OWI down from the shelf
preparing for such a set-up. This option was also
discussed at http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/Design_criteria.htm. The first test
set-up will be with the OWI tweeter but a version with
the Fountek tweeter will also be tried.
The shortcomings of the (probably) upper midrange from
the TJL may not be derived from the use of a ribbon
tweeter as such, but rather from the W18 itself not
having the dispersion of smaller drivers. The experience
gained from the last two speakers projects: http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/Ekta.htm and http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/8543.htm has left no doubt in my mind
about the benefits of adding a smaller driver to cope
with the upper midrange/lower treble. Speed and
dispersion is significantly improved - and so it will be
tried in the TJL3W. I still think the ribbons offer a
speed and lack of colouration that domes simply cannot
match.
Also read Kevin's comments on the TJL: http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/TJL_Kevin.htm.

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