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What it takes to make a crossover
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Before anything else: You cannot change the tweeter - or any other driver - in any of the constructions shown here without needing a new crossover. Read here how "close" tweeters appear to be - and yet, requires very different crossovers: SS 9500, 9700 and 9900 tweeters If you change front panel dimensions, actual drivers, placement of drivers and cabinet tilt in the constructions shown on these pages, you're on your own. The crossover will no longer work as intended, so please do not ask because I would need your speakers in my workshop to adjust the crossover. Most common mails go like this: "I have these and these drivers; can you please make me with a crossover?" I can't, because to make a crossover I need this: - Frequency response and phase
from actual drivers
mounted on actual front panel. In very few cases I may have the actual drivers and a suitable test cabinet and I can set up the drivers and do what's described above. We're then into diy-service work and it usually takes 5-15 hours depending on overall complexity. This only provides a crossover that actually works on some basic parameters like frequency response, phase integration, power response, etc., but no guarantee it also sounds good. The question is whether we can
make a crossover at all without measurements We cannot use manufacturers' data sheets to simulate crossovers either. The frequency response data are most often taken from an "infinite" baffle that does not in any way resemble your cabinet. These data do not contain proper phase data, etc. Yes, you can set up a speaker
with a crossover based on theoretical values that will
ensure you won't burn your tweeter or midrange and you
may sit back and think this is a great speaker - and
maybe it is - but maybe you wouldn't like it if
you saw its measuring performance. - nothing can compete with "good enough" - I see a lot of people spending minor fortunes on expensive drivers and "high-end" components and never get the full potential of the drivers due to improper crossovers. The crossover is the heart of the speaker and can be made in numerous ways and to great extent determines the behaviour of the drivers. Only minor changes to the crossover can turn a great speaker into mediocrity and visa versa. I receive mails from people having made a construction from some presumed "allround" series crossovers that floats around on the web. They're awful! They won't work, so don't waste your money - and please read example #1 below. Example #1 1st example here is from a visitor I had, bringing in a beautiful Accuton 2-way from C220 and C23 drivers. The tweeter was hung on a hook on top of the cabinet (three O-rings), so no baffle support for treble. Usually a free "flying" tweeter measures pretty bad and this one was no exception:
Below you can see the response from a
series crossover my visitor had found on the web and
which was recommended as a generally applicable
crossover. Shame on whoever launched a load of crap like
this! It's a disaster! Two C220 and two C23 Accuton
drivers are serious money and throwing in some phantasy
web-nonsense like this is a total waste of money. Example #2: Let's take a look at the 2.5 clone:
ScanSpeak 18W/8535-00 and D2010/8513. The clone is
basically an 18/18 dB filter at 3 kHz. Try to calculate
component values for a 18/18 dB filter at 3 kHz for two 8
ohm drivers and compare to the actual crossover:
The calculation sheet cannot take into account the impact of bypassing the 1.75 mH coil with the 47 ohm resistor. Not to mention baffle-step compensation. The calculation sheet is not taking into account the needed tweeter attenuation - nor tweeter polarity for that matter. So, the real 2.5 clone filter does not look very much like what we have calculated. If we made a 2.5 clone crossover based on theoretical component values we would get a speaker that would yell off our heads from having an upper mid som 5-10 dB higher than intended and probably some serious problems in the crossover region as can been seen (out-phasing).
OK, so we have heard that tweeters need attenuation and we add a 5R6 to the tweeter:
Well, we got the tweeter level down, but an even more serious dip at 4 kHz. - And we have heard that we may need to invert polarity of the tweeter:
Better!, but still upper mid and treble level is some 5 dB too loud.
Above when the 2.5 clone is right - for better or for worse.....not my favourite speaker. My best advice is to choose some well documented commercial kits or well documented diy-constructions from the internet if you want to enter the fascinating world of DIY loudspeaker construction. Take great care if you change cabinet construction. Happy hours in the workshop! |